benwalton wrote:Having read what happened and the fall out from it on here and on Twitter, I have a few points to bring to this melting pot of festering resentment.
1. I have seen Ginger gigs where he hasn't been in the best of moods, and yes, they can be tough to watch when you have nothing but admiration for the man, but quite simply, this board here is full of hardcore Ginger fans and apologists. I think I speak for most of us when I say that if Ginger used our 'asses as his girlfriend' we'd probably wear it as a badge of pride, there'd be multiple threads on here offering a blow by blow account of it. It seems like coming in here saying how much of a penny pinching bastard you think Ginger is was never going to be a good idea. Go away.
2. Sure, the things Ginger has been saying on Twitter haven't been the most pleasant, but as has been proven in this thread, people say things they will go on to regret in the heat of the moment. Deal with it. Like the news editor of NME is going to write a piece about Ginger having a strop - when was the last time Ginger was even in NME? Gimme a break...
3. I will never, never, never be able to condone or side with someone who defends crowd surfing. In my every day life I don't have to put up with people's grubby fucking trainers kicking me in the face, or having some grubby cunt's rub over the top of my head. Don't crowd surf. It's just common courtesy. If you want to enjoy something that involves taking your feet off the ground buy a motherfucking trampoline.
Bristol: from what I gather, you were cheated out of the final moments of one single song. Quite how anyone would dare ask for their money back after seeing essentially a full gig is beyond me. It's like: you're trying to say that seeing 3 bands wasn't worth £12? you realise that's £4 per band right? What can you get for £4 these days anyway?
eeuuurgggghhhhh...back into my dark cavern I go....
Well said!
I've hated crowd surfers ever since I got properly kicked in the head by a shirtless, sweaty knobhead having a whale of a time at everyone else's expense. I feel the same way about stage divers, and I've seen a fair few of them go splat when the crowd has decided to part rather than catch some huge sweaty drunk.
Demanding refunds or haranguing Ginger over last night just makes you look like a loser, and I'm sure Ginger can happily live without 'fans' like that!
Ax
